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Meta Cooler vs Nameless Namek
Topic Started: Dec 15 2013, 12:16 AM (1,432 Views)
Terra Crisis XII Dec 15 2013, 12:16 AM Post #1
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 Meta Cooler pretty much wiped the floor with ssj goku and vegeta, seeing as how goku and vegeta didnt exactly defeat meta cooler head on but destroyed his entity. I put Meta Cooler maybe around android 17's level (17 and 18 made ssj vegeta and trunks look weak also), and Nameless Namek aka Piccolo fused with Kami being far beyond pre - RoSaT ssj goku and vegeta. Piccolo if not slightly stronger was on par with android 17 and i doubt meta cooler is Post - RoSaT tier, I thought it would be a good match, So who takes the cake?
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StrawHatCrew Dec 15 2013, 12:36 AM Post #2
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 Piccolo 1-shots.

I don't even think Meta-Cooler is on ImPerfect-Cell (post-GingerTown) Level, who didn't stand a chance against Piccolo (post-Kami-fusion).
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SSJ Dec 15 2013, 12:40 AM Post #3
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 Well SHC, consider this. Meta Cooler was able to take on both Vegeta and Goku. Not only this, but he made it seem easy. We know from Freeza that Zarbon and Dodoria could beat Vegeta if they teamed up. Goku & Vegeta don't qualify for this as we saw. This must mean that Cooler had a pretty solid advantage over them. I also put him right around Android 17 level, as these were the Android Saga Saiyans battling. Android Saga Vegeta was a decent match for 18, he just couldn't keep up with her stamina. However, even if Goku was with him they said they would not win. So it seems rather similar to me.

SSJ Goku + Vegeta < 18/17

SSJ Goku + Vegeta < Meta Cooler

You be the judge.
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Terra Crisis XII Dec 15 2013, 01:04 AM Post #4
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 hmmm thats an interesting point, Going by your theory that would put Meta Cooler above Ginger town semi-perfect cell, because

Nameless Namek > Ginger Town Cell

Nameless Namek >= Andriod 17

Android 17 > Ginger Town Cell

Metal Cooler = Android 17

Metal Cooler > Ginger Town Cell
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StrawHatCrew Dec 15 2013, 01:06 AM Post #5
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 @SuperSaiyan2: True.

But I think I remember (not sure), #18 knocking Trunks out with 1 hit, who isn't that much weaker than Goku & Vegeta.

I don't think Meta-Cooler could do something like that.

The gap between ImPerfect-Cell (post-Ginger-Town) & the Super-Saiyans was also massive.

Chapter: 364 (DBZ 170), P10.1
Vegeta: "One of those guys with mysterious, absurdly large battle powers has vanished...But the other one remains..."
Context: the vanished one is Cell, and the remaining one is Piccolo

Chapter: 362 (DBZ 168), P2.1-2
Trunks: "I feel another stupendous ki...! There's someone else!! Someone else I don't know!!"
Kuririn: "It's Piccolo!!!"
Note: so in other words, Trunks considers both Cell and Piccolo's ki as 'stupendous'.

Also ImPerfect-Cell (post-Ginger-Town) was putting up an okay fight against Piccolo (supressed).

sorry for the late reply my stupid computer shut itself down, l0l.
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lunar2 Dec 15 2013, 01:08 AM Post #6
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 you guys are forgetting one thing. movie 6 piccolo is post fusion piccolo. if he could have taken on meta cooler, he would have, since he was there. in movie 6, vegeta and goku are more powerful than piccolo, despite him being post fusion.
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Terra Crisis XII Dec 15 2013, 01:20 AM Post #7
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Dec 15 2013, 01:08 AM
you guys are forgetting one thing. movie 6 piccolo is post fusion piccolo. if he could have taken on meta cooler, he would have, since he was there. in movie 6, vegeta and goku are more powerful than piccolo, despite him being post fusion.
That was actually discussed in another topic on this site, Piccolo post kami fusion was a lot weaker then he is in the actual timeline of the anime vs movie 6, to give goku the obvious spot light, those two being haxxed in that movie is the only explanation because Piccolo post fusion was proven to be stronger than both ssj vegeta and goku pre - RoSaT
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lunar2 Dec 15 2013, 02:29 AM Post #8
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 how would piccolo be weaker? wouldn't it be more likely that goku and vegeta are stronger. say, for example, that a few months have past since piccolo defeated cell in the hypothetical timeline that movie 6 has to be set in. that would be enough time for goku and vegeta to surpass piccolo with normal training, assuming there was some reason he didn't get stronger, like maybe he's spending time teaching dende how to be kami.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans Dec 15 2013, 02:34 AM Post #9
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魔王子

 Considering we see Meta Cooler own Piccolo, whom has fused with Kami in M6, in a second, Meta Cooler is taking this with no difficulty.
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EMIYA Dec 15 2013, 02:41 AM Post #10
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Movie 6 was released in theatres on March 07, 1992.

Piccolo fused with God in the manga on February 24, 1992.

I highly doubt there's going to be much time in Movie 6 for the production to realize this close to release that Piccolo was going to fuse with God this late in production. There sure as hell is no way at the start unless AT told them that Piccolo would fuse with God. And considering Piccolo's piss poor performance compared to Goku and Vegeta, I say he's not Post-God Merge.
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Hearts Dec 15 2013, 03:04 AM Post #11
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 Maybe because Trunks wasnt there, this happened right before the android arc, at the end of the 3 year time skip tho, this would explain why Piccolo is strong but not as strong as Goku or Vegeta.
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lunar2 Dec 15 2013, 03:20 AM Post #12
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Dec 15 2013, 02:41 AM
Movie 6 was released in theatres on March 07, 1992.

Piccolo fused with God in the manga on February 24, 1992.

I highly doubt there's going to be much time in Movie 6 for the production to realize this close to release that Piccolo was going to fuse with God this late in production. There sure as hell is no way at the start unless AT told them that Piccolo would fuse with God. And considering Piccolo's piss poor performance compared to Goku and Vegeta, I say he's not Post-God Merge.
actually, he's specifically referred to as a super namek, and dende is guardian of earth. yeah, piccolo is post merge.

regardless of how toei knew, they knew enough ahead of time to include that in the movie.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans Dec 15 2013, 03:46 AM Post #13
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 Dende also didn't become the god of Earth until way later than that yet he's still in movie 6. Also, if Piccolo didn't fuse with Kami, why the hell is Dende even there?
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EMIYA Dec 15 2013, 03:50 AM Post #14
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 May I ask when Piccolo is referred to as a Super Namek in Movie 6 in the original Japanese?
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lunar2 Dec 15 2013, 04:09 AM Post #15
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 well, what do you know, he isn't. still dnede is the new kami, so piccolo is post merging. that much is pretty simple.
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